I’m always on the lookout for something that inspires me and moves me into deep thought or action. A lot of things caught my attention this week, so forgive me if this post seems to be lacking a single theme or direction.
What Does Your Environment Say About You?
The first quote I saw this week was by author Geneen Roth. Now that Oprah has bought shares in Weight Watchers and Ops has discovered her, Ms Roth is all the rave. I first became aware of Roth in 2008. I was in the midst of a 70 lb weight loss transformation, I had moved out of the house I had once shared with my Narcissist and was living in a rented apartment at the beach. One day I went to wash my clothes in the laundry room and I noticed a table with books on it and a sign that read, “Take a book, leave a book.” There I saw two books from Roth one was called Feeding the Hungary Heart, the other, Why Weight?
I brought the books back to my apartment and devoured them immediately. No pun intended. It almost seemed divine to me that the messages in this book were exactly what I needed to hear and I received them at the exact time I needed to hear them. Search as I may all these years later and I could not find the book in my collection, nor the direct quote I was looking for, but within the pages Roth made me realize the reasons for my behavior with food, she said something akin to, ‘you could eat from here to eternity and you still won’t reach that void inside of you that you’re trying to fill.’ You won’t touch it because the void isn’t about food – food was just a symptom, a way to cope. These words translate into so much more than problems with food we all develop coping mechanisms to distract ourselves from our real issues. Food is but one way.
Fast forward to this week and I saw another of her quotes, “No matter how sophisticated, or wise, or enlightened, you believe you are, how you eat tells all.” I sat back and thought about this for a while and realized that this too is so much more than just a quote about food. It’s a quote about life. Here’s an example of what I mean:
The very first job I had as a teenager was in a retail store that financed gear to their customers. The owner had 3 sons. The middle son, Jon, was a twin and I believe was a little autistic. He lacked the social graces of his brothers. He was messy, clumsy, uncoordinated and just off. The problem was that he could never live up to what was expected of him. He wasn’t corporate enough, not sophisticated enough…and they never let him forget it. He was left out of functions, watched his baby brother get promoted ahead of him…they treated him like a bad penny his whole life. Consequently, his friends reflected how he saw himself. They were the dregs of humanity. They were the lost and broken souls and to him, this is where he felt he belonged, on the fringe with the other outcasts.
When I look back at my own life, my teenage friends were no different. They were the bad seeds, they drank and did drugs and committed petty crimes. That’s where I felt comfortable. The young men I dated were the same, entirely broken and hurting, trying to fill a void they couldn’t touch. But really who they were and my relationship with them spoke volumes about me.
Our life is a mirror of how we view ourselves and our environment. Roth’s quote is valid, except I would broaden it a little, to say, “how we treat ourselves tells all, the company we keep tells all, the expectations we have for ourselves tells all.”
Take a look at your surroundings – your friends, your partner, your job, your body – what do these things say about you?
He’s Actually Not So Much Happier Without You
I have a client, at my day job, that I would say is somewhere on the Narcissistic PD scale. He’s an angry little man, trusts no one, he’s so bitter and jaded that it’s tough to be in his presence. He started some time ago to tell me about his personal relationship, even though it’s not why he came to see me. From his admissions I could surmise that he was a parasitic type. He didn’t earn much money and had latched onto a nice, big ole, financial resource. She owned the house they lived in, she paid for everything, even their vacations, while he contributed nothing but a penis and a bad attitude.
He was furious with his partner because she had dared go on a vacation with her sister, without him. They had had a vacation together, all of them, back in November, which he didn’t pay for. He was angry with her then because she hadn’t paid him enough attention and was focusing on her sister too much.
I said to him, “She paid for your vacation and you sat there and moped the entire time and ruined it for everyone, including yourself, because you weren’t getting enough attention and now you wonder why she didn’t take you this time?” He went on about how disrespectful he felt her behavior was and that was all he could see. I asked him, “What would (my mentor) do in that scenario?” He is the big boss of the facility we work at so my client is aware of him. “He would go off and do his own thing if his wife wanted to spend time alone with her sister and not think anything of it. I think he would be empathetic enough to know that he gets his wife’s attention every day, while she sees her sister maybe once a month. I think you’re not viewing this from the proper perspective.” He continued on with a slew of scenarios where his partner was a mean, horrible, shrew of a woman that had done him wrong, so I asked him, “What are you still doing in this relationship if this is how you feel?” His answer was all too common, “I’d have to move in with my dad and I don’t want to do that commute to work.”
“If you met someone else, who had the same resources, would you leave her?” I asked him. “F’ing right,” was his response. He had told me in an earlier session that he had left the mother of his child for this woman. At the time it seemed like he had caught a big fish. Now he was regretting his choice. I didn’t have to meet his partner because the fact that she was funding this guys lifestyle and putting up with his horrendous behavior and moods told me all I needed to know about her.
The entire scene was all too familiar and so many of my clients have this terrible fear that their Narcissist is so much happier without them. Here is yet another affirmation that they are still the same person, they don’t change who they are because they meet someone new. Their old miserable, all-about-me, selves will always eventually emerge. They are incapable of seeing things in a different, more empathetic perspective and these things are required for all healthy intimate relationships. The fact that he was staying in this relationship didn’t mean he was happier, in fact he kind of regretted leaving his old one. They are, if nothing else, opportunists and sometimes their new opportunity is not all they hoped it would be.
It’s All About Execution
I’ve been following Gary Vaynerchuk on social media for almost two years. He’s kind of the new Anthony Robbins and as I’m always on the look-out for things that inspire me I keep a close eye on what he’s got to say. I came across one of his quotes last week that made me say hmmmmm.
“Ideas are shit,” he said. “Everyone has ideas. It’s execution that counts.” I’ve been struggling to get a few projects off the ground and my business partner is in a tizzy about my indecisiveness. I work 7 days a week, after my day job, I have clients until well into the evening, I Skype all day on my day off and I write my blog on Sunday. I’m tired – I have no time, no energy, no social life….I also have a million excuses.
What does Gary Vaynerchuk say about the grind, “Maximize the energy you put into what you are passionate about. Squeeze every last bit of juice out of your day. Put all your effort into achieving the goal at hand. Make every minute count. Every. Single. Minute.
Adding to this mind set, today (Sunday), was the first day of training camp for many major league baseball teams in Florida – including my beloved New York Mets. My baseball crush, Noah Syndergaard, nicknamed Thor, due to his Viking heritage, his 6’6 frame, long blonde hair and the fact that he is the hardest throwing starting pitcher in all of baseball, showed up at camp having dropped 1.3% body fat and gained 17 pounds of muscle, in just 4 months. When questioned about how hard he works in the off season, he’ll tell you it’s because he wants to throw even harder. He wants to be the best. I always wonder about the drive those people have that want to be the elite of the elite. Where does that drive come from? How do you get it? What is it that’s so special about them that they succeed where others fail?
I walked into the lunch room at work on Friday, one of my colleagues was happily chowing down on his lunch. I peered into his bowl and saw a mix of broccoli, Brussel sprouts, avocado, turmeric, tuna and a boiled egg, all jumbled together. “That looks repulsive,” I said laughing. “It’s delicious,” he replied. “Do you put anything on it, balsamic vinegar, salad dressing, anything?” I asked.
“No, sometimes I might put a little olive oil or salt and pepper, for taste,” he said chewing away.
“Jay, the only way that would taste good is if you smothered it in gravy,” I said joking, well not really joking.
Jay, not surprisingly is in great shape, he’s one of those work-out fanatics that actually feels bad physically, when they don’t work out or heaven forbid, they eat something like pizza. He reminded me of an Anthony Robbins quote, “You can tell a lot about a person by their rituals.”
What do your rituals, friends, romantic partners, thoughts, and behaviors say about you? If you don’t like the answer change your routine until you do. I’d love to say more but I’ve got to run. I’m out of broccoli.
Hey look I found a common theme after all.
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Very good articles. I am enjoying them. And I am working on self care. I am a helping professional too and humans stick to your heart so its hard to leave people hanging. That’s why its hard to be in a relationship where I do not stick to his heart. And only he does or very superficial people that he deems worthy. Reading helps me to understand codependence. And in my bad relationship I am wishing for my focus to be work or my sons. So I think where you’re at is a step healthier. I thank God everyday as a Social Worker that I have a skill set to offer others. And you have great skills too. Because getting to apply your skills to people “in growth” is special. It trickles out to a lot of other things. I’m sure youre smart and scaled back after your awareness that youre working a lot. Thanks for your articles. Jenny
I have had this life credo since I was a late teen:
If you want to be successful surround yourself with people who are either already there or at least going in the same direction.
Perfectly said, Klynn! This is 100% true, Savannah. Thank God for you! I’m finally narc free. And I don’t wish him any pain or suffering because of how he treated me and the kids. Let his life be. I feel SO good just being free! I owe a lot of my growth and understanding to you….TJ
Savannah, your weekly column is nectar to my soul.
I imagine that your work must be quite emotionally draining — listening to so many of us going on about our pain and sad stories — but your work brings so much value to so many people. You change lives with your honesty, your insight, and your vulnerability. I know because you have changed mine.
I want to remind you when you are tired and overworked that your efforts have great purpose and your work is meaningful. Most people, including Gary Vaynerchek (who works in social media marketing, FFS!) don’t do meaningful work that touches people’s lives like you do. (Plus, I know people who work with him and say he’s a raging narc!) If you are struggling to be more decisive and maybe a bit more motivated, it’s because you are human and you have the same 24 hours a day the rest of us do.
I would suggest you read Lolly Daskal over at Inc and follow her twitter feed for more relevant inspiration. You are a thought leader, and you are making a difference to all those who read and follow you and seek your counseling. Sometimes the servant needs support too.
I want you to know that whenever I feel low, or sad, or start to question why I left my relationship or grow sick with envy that he’s moved on and could be happier now, while I am alone and unhealed, I read and reread your work and absorb your words.
YOU keep me from going back to the abuse, the suffering, the pain. YOU keep me looking ahead, focused on my own work. YOU keep me in touch with my own heart and needs. YOU.
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say “Thank you, Savannah.”
Thank you for the years of suffering you endured so that you could eliminate suffering for so many others. Thank you for sharing your hard-earned wisdom so that others could become wise. Thank you for struggling so others could struggle less.
Thank you.
I have read many of your stories, mines is stranger than you can image, and if I offend you I sincerely apologize.
I’ve been in love with my 2nd male cousin since age 8. He is 7 yrs older than me. I tried to tell him but yes its odd for a “child” so it didn’t happen . At my age 11 he when into the Marines when he was 19. Fast Forward, there were (2) funerals that occured. 2 1/2 years ago, and his mom my great aunt attended and of course she reminded me of my childhood love. I asked her how he was doing and she blurted out well he’s married. His 3rd marriage.
I located him shortly after on Facebook and added him asked him about everything and yes he was married and deployed. Again I’ve been in love with him since a young age and still wanted to know more about him. The full year he was gone we flirted a lot but he contacted me every several weeks I paid little attention to that.
When he got back it was like sparks flying but I tried to break it off before we did anything sexually because of my morals. He insisted and he has insisted for the past 2 years. And yes we all have our own minds however I was just to gullible and submissive which is not good so I let him have his reign.
Long story short I’ve seen him hurt his wife and I knew that I didn’t want that for me that was before the first time we were intimate and I tried to stop it.
He has been controlling and scary. Pray has changed that.
I’ve tried to break up with him several times over the past two and a half years. He has hurt me neglected me on all holidays. I’ve been trying to break up with him sometimes because I felt bad and have morals please don’t judge me. He has been trying to hide a bad temper from me which I can tell he had from childhood. He briefly method that Marines don’t play the ignoring act and will stalk you, he said that after I hid my phone and a recent breakup from a different Marine.
I’m ready to walk away because he has hurt me more than I can handle and I don’t like it. I’ve asked him sometimes to do what’s right but he ignores me and only worried about his desires. After this Valentine’s Day I know that it’s all about him and never was about me not that I was looking for that. He always seemed to step up more and more whenever I walk away and I printed God that everything will be okay.
He is very controlling manipulative and gets her very upset when things don’t go his way and I don’t like it!
Stephanie there’s no judgement here and the only thing that offends me are people who are always looking for a reason to be offended.
Hi Savannah
I’d like to say that I look forward to your articles every week, they give me great insight into my own codependency and for that I’m grateful. However something in this week’s article rubbed me the wrong way and compelled me to comment. It was your “he’s an angry little man” comment. That one hits a raw nerve with me. I’ve been smaller than my peers my whole life. I’m a little closer to average height now at 5’10” than I was in grade school. I was much shorter than everybody then as well as having a slight build.I also have always had some serious anger issues. That stems from being the scapegoat to my crazy bitch malignant narc psycho “mother”. Her and her psycho daughter. I was terrorized and traumatized by both of them with vile and horrific movies beginning at the age of six. I feel my anger is justified regardless of my small stature. I would get in fights often, and win. It was usually with big guys looking for an easy mark. My shy troubled nature and small size gave these guys the false impression that I was a pussy. They’d mess with me for no reason and I’d explode all over them with all the rage I had building up inside from what was being done to me at home by my family. I’d go right through them. They had no idea what hit them. Sometimes I would turn on my friends and mess them up.
Throughout my childhood when other kids would tease me about my size I would internalize it and feel ashamed of myself. It wasn’t long before I was feeling humiliated and ashamed for everything about me. For who I was as a person. It’s what my mother wanted. Now that I’m older and wiser I have a little more insight as to why people make derogatory comments about others. Just the other day a shop owner in my hometown said to me with a shit eating grin ‘you’re just a little guy’. She had heard I was raising hell with the local police for being derelict in their duties when my truck got damaged in a parking lot. This chick happens to be obese.
I hear the ‘angry little man’ comment more and more in main stream media lately it seems, talk shows, reality shows etc. I don’t remember ever hearing anyone say ‘he’s an angry large man’ or ‘he’s an angry average sized man’. What gives? Does society relegate small men to being pleasant little wimps and nothing else? There may be a mass mindset of sorts that goes ‘shit rolls downhill-I let people bigger than me push me around but as long as there’s someone smaller than me to push around it’s okay. Then they see a man small in stature holding his own, expressing his anger, not taking any crap off of anyone and it throws a wrench in the works. They feel ashamed of themselves for all the crap they DO take, for all the times they DON’T express their feelings and they don’t like how that feels so they project their shame onto the ‘little guy’ with the angry little man comment. Or they could just be ashamed of their body and want to project that out onto others any way they can.
Whatever the exact reasons are for people making this comment, one thing I’ve realized is a constant every time I’ve heard it either directed at me or someone else-the desire or need of the speaker to humiliate the recipient. Me I’ve had enough of feeling ashamed and humiliated for who I am. I’m moving slowly towards accepting myself and others unconditionally. This angry man you wrote about, I don’t think his size was any more relevant than his skin color or sexual orientation. If your human you’re allowed to be angry regardless of your size. With all due respect, A small man-who sometimes gets angry
Harp – this is what I mean by “people are always looking for a reason to be offended.” He actually wasn’t that short. I used the term to describe his demeanor more than anything. I used a phrase a couple of weeks back in a blog, “dark place,” and someone felt compelled to complain about that. I do a face palm when I get emails like this. I’m short about 5’3 so every time someone makes a short reference should I a) get really offended and write an email complaining, b) laugh about it? I’m choosing b every time.
Thanks Savannah
Timing again perfect.
Saturday the 11th would have been 5 weeks of NC. The longest time & hardest time in the 7months since I left.
My anxiety was extreme, I cried everyday, my emotions were all over the place. And then bang last Thursday the 9th out of the blue I get a 14min phone call. Of course she said she wasn’t sure the call was going to go through WTF.
She was drunk and just wanted me to drop everything at 9.15pm and go with her for a drink. I said NO…..couldn’t believe it myself me say NO to Racheal.
My first reaction after the phone call was “wow I feel so much better after talking to her and how happy she makes me feel. I sent her a text after the phone call apologising for not going with her and said maybe catch up for coffee the next day.
I woke up the next day and went to my psychologist appointment. AND Bang….something clicked, and the reason I’m going on about this is because the DR mentioned exactly what you mention in your paragraph about “Is he happier without you”, my case “Is she”. They don’t change just because they are with someone else, they are incapable of empathy and she struggles to look after herself let alone start up a new relationship with someone else in such a short time.
Lastly, I walked out of the DR’s and said I’m not going to be hurt anymore and If I was to send a text to grab a coffee, she wouldn’t have replied and I would have felt deflated and sad.
I can’t thank you enough Savannah for choosing your blogs to write so perfectly touching all of us, snippets of information touch everybody differently on the day. xxxx Thanks for listening. I hope I can keep this up and not crash.
Wow, so she calls you when she’s drunk and wants you to join her b/c she’s run out of options. What does it say about someone who calls when they are drunk?
I really hope you did not send any text apologizing. You have nothing to feel sorry for. Also, no contact means blocking her from your phone and texts. If you are leaving the lines open for her to have a 14 min phone call with you, then this is not going full no contact.
Karen, your story sounds a lot like mine, at least the addiction part–because that is what this is. So while it’s good you said no, you have to stick with it. 14 mins on the phone with her? She should have not been able to get through. Period.
And think about that feeling you got–that ‘I feel so good after talking to her’– that is an addiction. That is NOT love. You want the validation from her, and you’re still looking towards her to get it. I am glad you are going to therapy and someone is helping you see this.
Don’t take that step back. You are kicking a drug habit. You have to cut all contact options and that includes NO phone contact, much less 14 min phone calls.
Because in the end, what did you achieve from that? Everything you have said about her, she sounds like a total fucking loser. Next time you feel like crying, remember those words.
Hi Lola,
I am learning the addiction part, and I am learning if I am happy to take scraps or crumbs for the rest of my life well that’s all I’m ever going to get.
It sounds so easy to just block her from my phone. Its just physically doing it. My head says do it, but then I start to feel guilty because I have always said to her “Ï would never block you out of my life”.
I will try to.
Yeah, as the months have progressed she only contacts me when she is drunk………..it’s fucked really.
I so appreciate you taking the time to reply to me Lola, it’s a good feeling and thanks again xxxx I’ll keep you posted.
I know that I don’t want the crumbs she feeds me
” My head says do it, but then I start to feel guilty because I have always said to her “Ï would never block you out of my life”.”
This is the sort of promise you make to someone who reciprocates and honors you. She does neither. You remind me where I was 3 yrs ago, crying and empty over a narc who didn’t give a shit about me. For all the pain you feel, you have to remember that she is not feeling it.
I said a similar thing to him. And guess what? I came to learn he was lying to me about his entire identity. (The 1st 2.5 yrs, in fact, he gave me a fake name. If that is not fucked up, I don’t know what is–and that’s not even the iceberg tip of the lies!)
So here I was, promising to always ‘be here’ for him and he was NEVER there for me.
My narc fit the covert narc to a tee and was likely a sociopath as well. He got off on my pain in subtle ways and he was a pathological liar.
I had imbued so much positive into him that simply wasn’t there.
She will not change. You should be feeling angry for how she treated you, not sad. Eventually, that anger will come, with time and therapy. You will want nothing to do with her. She will still be groveling and repeating the same patterns. She mistreats you and keeps coming back because you let her do it.
I learned that I had to take responsibility for my part in the situation–he was manipulative and horrible, but I kept taking him back. Why? What was so broken in me? Why did I convince myself he was some prize to be won? (he actually referred to himself as that once).
You have to ask yourself the same questions. Because I can guarantee you, if you do NOT block her, you will still be in the same place 3 yrs from now, crying all the time, rather than being able to look at it from afar, as I can.
You’re still thinking about her feelings and putting them above your own. You need to work on you. These people are pieces of shit, and once I really realized this, it made groveling and pining after them all the more ridiculous.
BLOCKED her number Thursday night.
Had the best weekend.
Thanks Savannah & Lola xxxx
I hope this continues, I know that I might crumble and unblock her, but for now
BLOCKED.
Ít’s like a weight off me, I still think about her everyday, and I still wish we worked.
Thankyou from the bottom of my heart.
Savannah finding your site has been and will be for a long time to come one of the best forms of therapy that I could have ever found.
xxxx
Karen: Give it a shot. You’re stronger than you think. You can do it. Believe me, I was there once.
And BTW, obviously, my real name isn’t ‘Lola’ but the reason I chose that was b/c of that cheesy Barry Manilow song ‘Copa Cabana.’ If you wanna have a chuckle, give a listen to that silly song. Then get up an dance to that and you’ll feel better. 🙂
Amazing timing. I get serendipity from your posts a lot.
After two years of treatment for PTSD, I’ve had a very good week of working on my house and on art projects. The start of a complete revamp.
Finding the energy was too difficult before, but I am reminding myself that spending energy creates momentum.
I appreciate this column. I’ve worked hard to come back from soul-crushing discoveries of a long term and serial nature that moved me to divorce. Not only did my marriage end, but more than one friendship with buddies of mine. I have learned so much in the past couple of years about the codependent/covert narcissist dance and why I allowed myself to be used as a doormat for 20 years. Your columns have been very important in my journey back from the edge, and I now have an understanding of the reasons why allowed predatory people like this into, and to remain, in my life. I am determined that it never happen again, and am doing my best to rebuild my confidence and self-worth. Damned hard.
You mentioned Tony Robbins and his comments on rituals. I have listened to him talk about that in the context of raising your standards (for yourself, the people you allow into your life, your health), and am making that a priority this year. Thank you for reinforcing this for me. I’ve made my health a priority, and have gone from a guy who was near collapse after half a lap, to a regular competitor in 5k’s. I raised my standards for my health, and created rituals to achieve them. Trying to do the same in other areas.
Just a thought on:
“I’m tired – I have no time, no energy, no social life . . .”
Savannah – All of us have stretches where we are burning the candle at both ends, but it’s a hard way for most of us to live on a long term basis. I admire and appreciate hard work and energy, and wish you great success in your projects. That said, as one who waits for your columns like a kid for his next meal, I hope you get to a point down the road that allows you the opportunity for time to recharge. For me, it’s an area where I’ve raised my standards for self-care (sleep, exercise, friends). I have found it beneficial.
This was way too long, but thank you again.
The last covert narc in my life was actually a coworker who much reminded me of my narc ‘friend’ who caused me a great deal of pain (I’ve spoken about it on other posts.)
My coworker was a pissy kind of guy who spent 4 hrs per day at the gym and would eat like the guy in this article. At 1st, he was nice to me and gave me lots of attention but then as time went on, the devaluing began and he would punish me with the silent treatment and he was doing a number of the same tactics my narc ‘friend’ did, so I suppose you could say his behavior was a trigger in my daily life and could sometimes make going to work feel crappy.
After my coworker grew bored with me, (I wasn’t feeding him the supply he wanted, I suppose) he moved onto this other girl. I am in good physical shape, but he regularly liked to tell me I had ‘no shoulders’ b/c I am not a weight lifter. This new girl he was obsessed with was literally skinny as a rail to the point of looking sickly. Funny how he is suddenly able to overlook this.
Long story short, he ended up quitting and I heard he began flirting with the skinny girl via texts and once he did so, she stopped messaging him. He later went on to calling her ‘the devil’ because she rejected him and how he wants ‘nothing to do with her.’
I tried to be so nice to this guy, yet he would only ever complain how girls ‘only want douchebags’. He would claim how lonely he was, yet would push people away. I knew that once he left I’d never hear from him, and I haven’t since.
This guy looks great but he is an empty shell. I used to try to tell him that he needed to get some new hobbies if he wanted to improve himself, but he seems to think that all his problems and boredom will be solved if he gets some girlfriend.
In fact, he is so rigid in his routine (working out obsessively, never wanting to eat anything but awful, unflavored food, not to mention his passive aggression when he doesn’t get his way) — none of these things will change and he will be still the unhappy, lonely person he was before I knew him.
This reminded me of the changes I’ve made in my physical environment. When I kicked my NPD ex out of the house, I started surrounding myself with things that make me smile, like some quirky space posters and fun wall art. It’s surprisingly how small changes in your environment can make a huge impact on day-to-day living.
As awesome as always. No, you’re not codependent if you work hard. I would say, you’re very well organized to do all that you do and you are generous to keep this blog running free for all that love it and hate it. Not everyone can afford paid therapy and your posts, I am sure, pulled many out of deep sh… They definitely helped me to cope with the divorce and still help me to keep me afloat my, sometimes, not so great post divorce feelings.
I loved your comment: “…he provided nothing but the penis and bad attitude.” That’s how I feel about my ex. Although, my shared household expenses okay, he saw it as a huge favor he was doing me and our kid. It was always his house, his money although I was bringing pretty much the same income, occasionally even more. Oh, well! I am not missing any of his grandiose.But I am sometimes sad that that what it really was. Once the money, penis and attitude were gone, there was nothing left. Nothing! For 19 years of my life! Nothing! Did he really not ever love me??? I know that the answer is: No, he did not because he doesn’t know what real partnership and love is all about. But it still hurts a bit as nobody likes to learn that instead of being respected they are actually hated and despised even if these negative vibes come from your not so great ex.
Serendipity –just reading a book on’ego’ . Your blog fits right in. Nothing like reinforcement! Keep the wisdom flowing–we all need your insights.
It sounds like you need to take better care of yourself. Your codependence is showing up as you punish yourself with too much work. I have done the same thing before. You also need love, life and laughter.
I’m not sure if I’d call working hard codependence Larry, but thanks for your concern.