It was one of James’s favorite little tricks, leave his stuff so he has an excuse to come back at a later date. If you throw his stuff away he will be angry and accuse you of destroying his stuff because you are a vindictive bitch, but to hang onto his stuff leaves you in limbo, he is still controlling you, you don’t know when he will come for it. it prevents you from moving forward and that is exactly what he wants. If he has a slow week or night and needs some supply he knows he can always call on the pretense of getting his stuff. James would call, drop by, be all sweet and friendly, we would talk just like old times and 1/2 the time we would end up in bed and the relationship would be “on” again. But it never really was on again and I never knew if we were back together or what. Half the time he would act like my partner and 1/2 the time like he hated me.
James had stuff spread all over the countryside, years later he would expect to go pickup his stuff and be pissed if it wasn’t there. Even with the woman in Africa he left his guitar with her, it leaves the door open, it gives the woman hope and it makes it easy for the narcissist to make contact and keep his pride intact; if he doesn’t get the desired response, (her melting at his feet adoringly) he can say he was just there to get his stuff. The thing is, he probably won’t take it when he leaves, either you will end up in bed or having a fight either way the stuff gets left behind.
The best thing you can do with the narcissist’s things is to give them to someone he knows, nicely boxed up (so he can’t say you destroyed his stuff) no letter, no card, no text saying you gave it to his friend. Just a cardboard box with his things in it, nothing more, nothing less.
If you have a goodbye letter in the box he will have an opening to reply and blame you, whether it is loving or angry it doesn’t matter to the narcissist; you do not want to have any communication with him whatsoever! Make sure you pack up everything, even stuff you think is garbage, just make sure there is nothing left of his for him to use as an excuse to call.
I know you have been hoping he will use it as an excuse to call but believe me, you are much better off with it gone and not having contact. It is one of the first steps to healing. Remember, to the narcissist life is a game of strategy and control; nothing more. Every thing he does and says is done with an ulterior motive, don’t play the game with him, even anger is playing the game. He thrives on drama, your tears, your frustration, being able to elicit a response from you proves he is still in control of your emotions. Do not give him the satisfaction. By giving his stuff to a friend with no communication (not asking the friend how he is, nothing. Even better if you get s friend to take it to a friend, the more removed you are the better, the only reason I even suggest giving it back to him is because you will feel guilty if you throw it away or destroy it and he will play on that guilt. You do not need any reasons to feel guilty and consequently do something you will regret later.) you are saying without words that you are done with him, you have nothing left to say to him, you do not want him coming to get his stuff, you don’t want nor will you tolerate the drama.
Victims often want the chance to have the final word, you can have the final word by not saying a thing, with a narcissist, that is much more effective than any amount of words.
Your Comments!!!!!!
Written by Carrie Reimer. This article first appeared in her blog Ladywithatruck.com
Personally it sounds to me like you should never have gotten with with someone like this in the first place and if he has a reputation and experience with hurting you (emotionally and/or physically) why would you be so eager to get back with him or sleep with him when you know based on experience that he is going to hurt you again and again during your life?
I don’t understand why women do this (or why a man would do something like this to a woman either). It’s because women do this over and over and constantly reject respectful and nice men that men feel compelled to become shitty people. Based your actions men feel like the only way they are going to be able to get with a woman is to start treating them like shit. Believe me this is true, you women never reward the men that treat you with respect and dignity and act like we are invisible (except if you need something or want something from us, then you will give us only enough attention to get what you want). I know for me personally I feel like I’m in a strange position, being nice, respectful, never hitting or hurting a woman gets me absolutely no where with women, yet the men women complain about that hurt them over and over have no trouble getting women at all. Honestly based on history it seems like I wouldn’t be always lonely and always single if I stopped being nice to women, that maybe if I started hitting women I could get a girlfriend once in 5 years. It almost feels like I’m cursed because I was raised in a way that I just can’t do that because besides when they aren’t around and you are complaining about them, the men that hurt you without fail always have an overabundance of women they can get with. I’m really at a crossroads because nothing I try works on the slightest works to gain any compassion from you women yet I see these pieces of shit never single.
If you don’t want men treating you horribly stop rewarding that behavior and start rewarding men that treat you with respect. It’s to the point that men who don’t know how to disrespect you woman or who can’t lower themselves to that level end up killing themselves, Feeling lonely and good for nothing because being respectful and not an asshole only gets us one thing from you women taken advantage of. Don’t play dumb like you don’t know what you are doing because you women do it to such a degree even a blind person can see
Thank you for the great article. I had one that I tried to leave. He got so mad at me that he took some paper and put it at the opening of the gas tank in my car and threaten to catch the car on fire. I was completely scared and he had my keys. Thank goodness we were living with another couple and the other man living there got my keys back helped me pack my things and leave him. He was begging me to stay and crying and blah blah so I leave. I was complete stupid and went back. I don’t know what I was thinking long story short he started getting physically violent towards me so I left him one day while he was at work and never looked back
My Narc had lived with us long enough that we had to serve him an eviction notice to make kicking him out legal. Typed that up, delivered it (via mutual friend) with a 2 week window for him to come and retrieve his things. He arranged through the mutual friend to do the pick-up at the very end of that 2 week window. I made sure his stuff was piled in very specific piles…the bedroom….the study….the garage. I arranged for myself, my children and EVEN MY DOG to be out and had the mutual friend and a buddy (so he would not be alone in the house and there were 2 people keeping an eye on him) babysit him while he packed his things into a U-haul. Left a legal document for him to sign that completed the eviction and basically said anything left in the house after that time would be considered forfeit. All went smoothly. Then the next day I was going through my file cabinet and realized the drawer I had let him use was full…of paperwork…he had completely missed an entire drawer of stuff, including his divorce papers (from previous relationship) and child support and visitation paperwork. I put it all on the curb including the desk he used to sit at and calmly sipped coffee as the garbage men threw it into the back of their big truck. Very satisfying. And no way for him to “come back” as he had signed that “right” away. Going on 4 years now. Never been more at peace.
I literally threw everything in a dumpster, all of his clothes and books. Everything. The final discard was just too humiliating for me to give him any chance to ask for it back.
That is mine did. He walked out after 2 months of no contact in the same house and it all started with me saying no to being coerced or forced into sex as he usually did to me.
He left everything behind and said he is never coming back. This isn’t just a few things, but everything including his navy uniforms and awards with his military records.
I am in the middle of donating everything and filling for divorce. I think he tried to engage me by texting the same thing that he wa never coming back and texting. I ignored both, then the revenge of trying to get me evicted and then I think he has people stalking me and watching the house.
I feel bad getting rid of his belongings, but in my mind he abandoned me with his belongings. I am not his storage locker, so everything is almost gone.
He has left many times before and this time I am making sure he doesn’t have a reason to come back at all.
He wants to make me feel guilty for him leaving, but I have to remember that if he wanted to talk I was just in the next room.
He did everything from not getting out of bed for weeks to laying naked on the floor at 1am making noise to get my attention and sympathy as he always did before.
Anyone that can just walk out instead of talking things out is not my idea of a husband instead it is signs of someone that is manipulative and not caring enough to even try at all!!
Everyday gets better but not having to deal with someone that feels they need to do this and neglect their wife for their own selfish reasons is not someone I want to be with.
He probably thinks I am being stubborn and difficult, but I am trying to move on from this toxic person that always made me out to be the abuser when they were playing the victim all the time.
Being strong and holding someone accountable does not make them an abuser in anyway!!
Thank you Savannah for your good work
My psycho jerkaholic is out of state, in a medical building. We were married for a long miserable time. This is my escape. I have been cleaning his things up & packing them neatly. When, there is enough to bother his brother to come & get it all, I will. No, note. Nothing, because he is nothing to my heart. All he has done, I don’t need/want him in my life. Going to move right out of his life. Nothing venture & nothing gained.
I bagged it all up in garbage bags. Left it on my front porch . Turned on The security system, and left for a week. Since he had no key, and did not know the code he stood and screamed himself hoarse until a neighbor called the police. They took it to his car, reminded him he had the right to be silent, because I also had a restraining order on file.
I do not know if he ever figured out I was not home and his children never had to hear the names daddy called mommy.
He left a few things of value but mostly he took things that weren’t his to take! He stole all my firearms and stole over $7k from my home safe then blamed my teenage granddaughter!. He left a truck bumper and two side steps for me to deal with. I’m trying to tell them now as he made it clear they were just junk to him.
He left some winter coats, a kayak paddle that he’d stolen from his daughter in law, fishing gear etc. in talking with the DIL we’ve discovered that many of the things he left at my house were not his at all. She’s trying to gather up their missing possession. Smh. He’s scattered his and their stuff all over Texas!
I’m in the process of boxing up everything and meeting her to exchange things. Apparently some of my things ended up at her house too!
I’d sure like to get the money back that he stole, as well as the unpaid “loan” of $850. He’s told me several times he was coming to get his stuff and he’d drop off “some” money against the loan. Neither had occurred.
I’ve thought of preparing an actual invoice and mailing it to him. Not sure that’s a good idea.
Suggestions? Thank you!
My answer was to take all of his things to a storage unit, since he refused to get his stuff. I was requiring, through my attorney, that an officer accompany him. I paid for the unit for two months and sent him a certified letter with a key stating the unit and address, and how long he had before they sold it all. Afterwards, I then found one of his musical instruments under the bed right after he received the letter that I had missed. So I decided to take it there and put it inside. Low and behold he was showed up as I was leaving! How does that happen?! My heart beating 900 miles an hour and in a panic, I was to my car after locking the unit. He blew in and got out of his truck and starting yelling. B__ch, I’m calling the police on you! You are stealing my things! I left as fast as I could get out of there. Seriously, what a crazy man…why would I steal his things when I paid to move them there?! It cost me for the unit and for moving his junk, but it was a small price to pay, considering. All I can say to all of you out there dealing with a guy like these guys…get out, however you can and DO NOT LOOK BACK! I too, cried and cried. And it took me so long to get my head back on straight…it is so confusing. There is one guy in there worth loving, but another one in there that is so scary and dangerous and manipulative! And he does not care about you or anyone. SO MOVE ON, as FAST as you can. Life is just too short to deal with their kind of hurt and drama. I pray you don’t have children with them…that would be the worst!
This is so true!
He left his stuff with me and would take things away but not all. There was always a reason why not. The heartache of watching him drive away, out of my life yet again was excruciating. Finally, I boxed it all up, left it with a mutual acquaintance and sent him a message to collect it from there. It was difficult but in the long run, much easier on myself.
Writing this my face is bright red, feeling those emotions all over again. It was so humiliating.