Dating is tough, even at the best of times, but when you’re trying to get back out there, after an abusive relationship with a Narcissist, it can seem like a daunting task. Through various emails and comments I’ve received, it seems that many of us are sharing the same, post Narcissist dating experiences and the process is leaving many, feeling upset, frustrated and fearful.
Many months after my relationship ended with a boomerang Narcissist, I decided that I was ready to date again. I had read a ton of books, was seeing a therapist and I looked and felt great. I met a wonderful guy. He was attractive, had his own house, good job, seemed emotionally healthy and treated me better than anyone had ever treated me. I should have been on cloud nine, but I wasn’t. I remember sitting at home crying, missing my Narcissist and I kept wondering, why he couldn’t treat me that way and why I didn’t have the same feelings for my new Mr Wonderful.
The closer I got to Mr Wonderful, the further I wanted to be away from him. When he would try to kiss me I would pull away. I was feeling trapped, suffocated and all I wanted, was to be left alone to wallow in my pain, for the guy who didn’t want me.
Why would I want to sit there all alone and pine for someone that treated me like gum on the bottom of his shoe, when there was someone so much better for me, who actually wanted to be with me? It defied logic and I couldn’t help but wonder just what was going on here?
Where is Your Comfort Zone?
Imagine for a moment that you have a fear of public speaking. You’ve never done it and the mere thought of it terrifies you to no end. Then, suddenly you are thrust into the spot light – there you are, all alone, all eyes are focused on you, waiting….How do you think you would feel in that situation? Complete unadulterated terror, right? And all your body would want to do, is flee.
When we have spent so much time in our relationships, feeling bad about ourselves and accepting poor treatment and then suddenly someone walks in and treats us like we’re the greatest thing since slice bread, it’s going to be a shock to the system. It’s going to make us feel uncomfortable and long for what feels most like home, even if home is an abusive place. It’s what we know.
When poor treatment is all that we have learned to expect from our partners, the feelings that stem from that become our default setting. It’s our comfort zone. It’s familiar and because it’s been demonstrated to us, over and over again, we internalize the feelings and those feelings become our beliefs.
When we have a core belief that something is true about us, it won’t matter how much reading, exercising, or positive affirmations you do, nothing will change, until your subconscious mind becomes congruent with your conscious mind.
So, when you are still putting out energy at an, ‘I’m not good enough,’ vibrational level and someone walks in with a, ‘you are amazing,’ vibration, you will repel that vibration like it’s an opposite magnetic pole. You will find any fault, or excuse to get as far away from that person as possible.
Trauma Bonds
Another reason we will forgo our happiness and remain stuck in our pain, is because of Trauma bonds.
The emotional highs and lows of an abusive relationship strengthen our attachment to our abuser, because shared trauma deepens the connection.
Oppression creates dependency, so anytime we give, or someone takes away our personal power, we become bound to their will. When we are suddenly given back the reigns of our own life, the tendency is to want to return to what felt normal – which is being treated poorly.
Many survivors of Narcissistic abuse have said that they have never felt such a deep connection to anyone before. They call their abuser their best friend, or even their soul mate. But the connection does not come from reciprocal love, kindness and trust. It lies in the high emotional charge from the trauma, so any relationship that does not provide those crazy highs and insane lows, will come off as boring and uninteresting. We’ve become accustomed to those soaring feelings and we mistakenly call them love.
Healthy relationships don’t have those immense highs and lows. Because we have come to believe that that’s what love feels like, when a normal relationship comes along and it doesn’t produce those same feelings, we will discard it quickly as, ‘not a love match,’ because we don’t feel the same level of arousal and we don’t recognize the unhealthy association we’ve made.
Post-Traumatic Stress
Trauma happens when we experience an event that is overwhelming, terrifying and involves the threat of death, or injury.
The symptoms of PTSD are commonly: A re-experiencing of the traumatic event over and over, nightmares, flashbacks, or persistent, troubling thoughts. Sufferers will avoid similar experiences that remind them of the past trauma.
Many of you know that I was in a fatal car accident that took the life of my mother. I was diagnosed by two psychologists with PTSD and even today when I am driving on the highway and I pass a transport truck (the vehicle that ran us off the road) I can feel my heart rate shoot way up, I have difficulty breathing and I try to get as far away from the vehicle as quickly as possible.
The same thing can happen when you’ve been through a traumatic relationship. As you get closer and closer to a new person and the prospect of a new relationship, it can trigger the old terrifying feelings you’ve associated with being in a relationship. Exposure to similar stimuli can produce the same feelings that you associate with the traumatic experience you had with your Narcissists. It can bring you to a state of panic, where all you want to do is flee.
How Emotionally Available are You?
We’ve all been at certain places in our lives where we were just not emotionally available to anyone. This could be after a break up, or the death of a loved one, or it could even a conscious choice. But many people walk around with a perpetual emotional wall they’ve built up around them, to protect themselves from hurt.
Some will consciously say that they want a relationship, but subconsciously the entire prospect terrifies them to death. These individuals will consistently seek out other emotionally unavailable people, because somewhere deep down they know, they can satisfy their need for a relationship, while at the same time, they know that there is little chance of real intimacy. These relationships are always intense, painful and short lived. So, when an emotionally available person comes waltzing around and wants to break down those comfy walls we’ve built ,that concept is again, way outside of our comfort zone and we will flee from it every time. So if you want to have an intimate relationship with someone that’s emotionally available, you have to first make sure that you are emotionally available.
The bottom line is, if you are trying to get back out there and it’s scaring you to death and always leads to tears, then stop. Don’t do it. There’s no fire, no mandate that says, ‘six months after the break up, you must successfully date again.’ It doesn’t exist. If you’re scared and it doesn’t feel good, then don’t do it. You’re not ready and that’s okay. It doesn’t mean that you’ll never be ready, but at this moment, you still have some work to do.
If you do want to keep trying your hand at dating, then just remember this isn’t a marriage proposal, you’re not making a life altering decision here, you’re just two people going out for drinks, or dinner, or a walk along the beach. You’re just getting to know each other – that’s all. Stop putting so much pressure on yourself and just enjoy the moment.
Dating is supposed to be fun and feel good, so if it doesn’t, stop, take your time and wait until it does.
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Amazing article and I’m so sorry to hear about your mother
This is the first article I’ve found that can put into words how I feel in my current relationship. He is so wonderful but sometimes it feels like something is off or missing. And thats because I’ve never had healthy love. So I’m comparing it to my Narc relationship that felt like a drug all the time. The highs were so high and the lows were awful.. He ended up in prison as a result of his discard of our relationship. And I guess I just have to relearn what love is. At the same time I feel guilty waiting for what I had with the narc to happen with the new guy. But that was love bombing and fake so Its never going to feel that way. Which in a way sucks. But I know I’m loved now unconditionally and its healthy. Its not him or our relationship that’s a problem its what I’ve been taught was love thats the issue.
I agree that there is and shouldn’t be a timeline to start dating. I immediately went back online because I was pissed and met someone. That should be a good thing, but I am still nagged with thoughts of my xN and wonder if this new guy (who is wonderful I think) is going to do the Jekyll/Hyde thing any day now! So my point is, don’t rush it! I’m hanging in with this one, simply because I don’t want to miss an opportunity and I think I can recognize the red flags. Wish me luck! I just wish, like everyone out does, for a cure and exorcism from the xN!
I’m 2 1/2 years from the break-up from my ex-N with intermittent no-contact, passionate afternoon sex on a whim, flirting, fighting, no contact again, wash and repeat. I have, within the last year, gained HUGE amounts of understanding and healing from it. He still attempts to contact me every few weeks in hopes of opening dialogue between us, to which I am able to ignore outright or respond indifferently with no room for open ended conversation. I truly feel I’ve overcome the situation enough to forgive the guy and I have a true understanding of the role he’s attempting to get me to play. I have finally felt it safe and exciting to begin dating again. I have been on several dates with various guys and can see the glowing red flags pretty quickly and completely trust my instincts. I have had the ability to shut down any prospective (toxic) dates before they start, unapologetically. I’ve now begun to get more serious with an amazingly sweet, loyal and wonderful man. He is, without question, crazy about me. I have zero doubt that he will treat me with kindness and respect now, and in the long hall. I don’t find myself missing my ex-N but I do find that I miss that intimacy and passion. I even compare that element of the relationship with my new guy and have now started to feel bored with him. He has no lack of enthusiasm in his feelings for me and has made me feel like he thinks I’m the best thing since sliced bread! I feel like (regrettably), I’m now just going through the motions sometimes with him. I know he could give me a happy, peaceful life but I’m feeling a little guilty that I’m beginning to feel a numbness. What’s wrong with me? Is this after effects of being in a narcissistic relationship? Should I stick it out and try to see this for what it is—a healthy relationship? Help?!?! I don’t want to lose a great thing but I also don’t want to end up complacent with someone I may never reciprocate those passionate feelings for.
I am so glad that I found this today..I can’t tell you how much I needed to see it. 5 years for me and its only been 2 weeks since he stopped bothering me. Noone understands why I dont want to go out..and I try to be as honest as possible. I felt like I was completely insane until I started reading all of this. Thank you.
I’m up and down with the dating. I keep running into narcicissists. However, I’m elated by it because I feel and see my growth. I can see them with my eyes closed. It’s frustrating because I believe I’m ready to be vulnerable to the right person, however, I also believe I still have a lot of healing to do because of what I’ve gone through. I’m grateful for the fact I can see these assholes coming, I can sense how weird these people actually are. I now know how emotionally dead I was to not see this. The things they do LITERALLY irritate me. I have my days of anger and sorrow, other days I have my S on my chest. One day at a time literally is how I take it.
Just now reading this. This is all so true. After being out of an abusive marriage with a narcissist for 7 years I have finally begun to try to date again. It was always fun and easy for me – until now. I wonder sometimes if I am just so broken inside that it’s now impossible for me to feel close to someone again. I meet men that I ‘like’ – at least on the surface – but simply cannot seem to ever feel anything beyond that or even want to share my life and more time with them. It is SO frustrating!
Greetings, have any of you tried reading ‘women who love too much’ by Susan Forward. I have found the book to be a great help in dealing with my narcisstic partner but more importantly how I cam move on and heal my self. I have long been aware of certain feelings, but was having difficulty putting them into words as I generally don’t like labels. As a result I have found this book nothing short of life changing in its depth and clarity, particularly delving into why women choose men like this, and the obvious suggestion of looking at our parents and our childhood. If you can relate to also having a narcisstic parent, another suggested read is ‘you’re not crazy, it’s your mother’, these insights and practices can be applied to any narcisst regardless of their relation. The only thing I am still having trouble with, is how to deal with a narcisstic partner when a child/children are involved. What I am considering is, Is it possible for them to build a different and therefore positive and fully functional relationship with the child, separate from you.
I only ask this because I am ready to separate from my partner, and wish I had done so sooner, but the last thing I want to do is have my son, he’s only 2, years from now…blame me for cutting off contact with his father. Would it not be best, however much I have to bite my tongue, to allow my son to continue developing his relationship with his father, and allow him to see his father for who is, or do I protect him and myself from further insult/damage? What about the children, I would like more info please.
Thanks Savanah for building this platform!
I just re-read this blog post 6 months later (and 9 months after being discarded by my ex-N). I have been giving the dating thing a try as of late and it is not going well. I joined an online dating site (mistake #1?) and have had a half dozen or so dates. Every guy I meet is either too nice (i.e. – boring in my estimation) or shows narcissistic traits, which I quickly recognize and run from. Or they are rushing to intimacy, which makes me totally uncomfortable as well. Your blog post has me questioning myself in all of this – am I being too critical of both the safe guys as well as the potential narcissists? Maybe I am just not ready to really put myself out there emotionally. I so want to move on with my life, but I think I have to accept that it will happen when it happens and I can’t force it. In the meantime, I’ll continue to read everything I can on this subject (including your awesome blog) and I will delete my online dating account. Here’s to a better 2015!
Thank you so much for this, which is what I’m going through now in dating a really nice guy after my narc. My brain keeps telling me I’m better off with this new guy, who treats me like a queen. So I’m baffled about why I still get hung up on the narc who treated me like a servant. After reading this I’m starting to get it, and it’s reaffirmed my choice to give it a go with this new guy rather than going back to a dysfunctional dynamic that will never work. I love that your advice is balanced in not dictating to people that they should not date again for X amount of time (nor pushing them to date if they don’t want to or aren’t ready). I don’t want my former narc to deprive me of the opportunity to love and be loved. However, I’ll just proceed slowly and with eyes wide open.
Wow…NarcRepellent, your post took the words right out of my mouth! I’m dealing with the same timing on my break up (3 months with 6 weeks of NC). I am also working on trying to give up the competitive feelings and worrying about the timeline. It’s amazing how these N men impact so many of us in the exact same way!
I most definitely am not ready to date. It’s been three months since I left my N and I recently met a new, nice man. I’ve just been trying to have fun, but based on how I’ve been reacting after seeing the new guy – craving my N — I know that I’m not ready.
Thank you, Savannah, for reminding us that we don’t have to give ourselves a deadline to be better by.
It’s funny, I gave myself a deadline of six months, too, telling myself that I’ll totally be over my N, happy, “cured” and dating after the six-month mark. This kind of thinking only sets me up for failure and provides unnecessary pressure.
That’s the rational part of me talking. Now, here’s the irrational part:
I should NOT be thinking about my ex, at all, but I do in a weird competitive way. It’s like I want to be healed from the damage he’s caused in the shortest amount of time possible and to be better off, because I’m certain that he’s already moved on, either with someone in his harem or a new woman that he views as “better” than me.
Why in the hell should I have to be celibate and broken for a year, for instance, while he goes off and whores himself out around town not caring about anyone or anything?
There’s a part of me that wishes I had the capability to discard him mentally the way that he was able to discard me.
Thank you for these words today. I slipped back , talking to him today. The amount of anxiety and distress it caused me immidiately.Your article has put me back on my right road to recovery. These people destroy you, and it really is unreal how much power they can hold with manipulation. I am walking away…and safe.
I, also, have no inclination to seek out a relationship. I’m slightly open, thinking that in a year or two I might start dating, but for now I’m learning who I am and what I like and what I want and enjoying being single, enjoying finding my new life, which I liken to haven awakened in a totally new place after a bomb went off and there was mass destruction and nothing is the same, but I survived. I have just gotten pretty much past the daze and seeing the new reality and mourning the loss and being thankful for the new life and now am starting to explore my new environment. And it is good.
I met this guy 7 years ago. Right after we met we spend year and a half together, seeing each other. But we were very distant emotionally part of the reason is i am emotionally unavailable. The only thing that was working between us was sex. We broke up and he came back and become so distant, getting touch sometimes. Now we dont really see each other, but i always think of him and feels that its my fault how it all turned out. I havent seen anyone since then and just have very strong inclination to get back together with him. I am not sure if he is the narcissist but he has problem maintaining relationship and going from one woman to another. I decided doing self help 3 years ago to find solution and improve my relationship. Reading books doing reasearch and trying out ways to release negative beliefs. Because what i have been going through is just painful that i promised myself to make myself feel better before start dating again. Cause i couldnt let myself get hurt again and also wanted to be more emotionally available in a right way to create better relationship experience. I do wanna get back dating, meet my husband and have family someday. And don’t wanna prematurely rush into it. I do feel better about myself comparing with the time i start doing self help. But there are moments that makes me feel so frustrated and having to deal all of these.
I needed to hear your message in this article today, Savannah. Thank you for permission to not be in a relationship. I have decided that I don’t want to be hurt any more by unhealthy narcissist men that I think I’m “in love” with. I am making a healthy decision to be celibate for one year, work on myself and live in the moment as a single, independent woman. I accept that that is ok and that I do not need any man to complete myself. Thanks again for your article today.
Dear Savannah. I love your blog and your honesty when you write. It’s refreshing!
I am six months into my freedom from a 5 yr narc relationship, and two months ago I was asked on my first date in five years. The guy was nice, interesting and interested, but my reactions were so reactive to my ex, that I not only managed to kill any inkling of an interest in him, but talked myself out of mine too (we have managed to start a friendship, and he is indeed a very nice and sweet man, but no romantic feelings)
It made me realize that I wasn’t ready.
I was then asked out again a month ago by someone else online, and initially I said yes, but somehow something felt off, so I asked him if we could postpone meeting, to which he responded by deleting me. So that was a dodged bullet.
So while some of it has to do with still reacting, sometimes we are also still drawn to the wrong men, and it takes a rebuilt trust in your instincts and intuition to walk away.
That’s brilliant advice, Savannah. It’s really refreshing to read the opposite of being pushed to do something you’re not ready for. Me, I’m in my 60s now, and I honestly don’t want another relationship, ever. My life is rich with personal achievement and activities, and although I have a small handful of good people in my life I also have the need to spend huge chunks of time on my own. I feel incredibly lucky to have found my niche in life and the life that satisfies me, and at my age I don’t see the need to spoil it with a relationship.
Obviously, the single life doesn’t work for most people, so it’s really great to see your fab advice for those that will eventually find love. Love your articles and insight as always. Thank you. 🙂