Sometimes our hearts haven’t quite caught up to our heads and when you throw a little physiology into the mix, getting over a Narcissist can seem like you’re trapped in a maze, unable to find your way out.
As we mentioned last week, the first thing we have to do to extricate ourselves from our dysfunctional relationship, is to become aware that this relationship is toxic and damaging to our sense of self-worth. That’s the easy part, because for the most part, we know when we’re being disrespected and generally treated poorly. The next few steps have to deal with driving an emotional wedge between our addiction to our Narcissist and ourselves, which will allow us to gain distance and some perspective.
In life, most of us do what we want to do, right? Somehow, some way, we’ll find a way to justify staying in a relationship, that we know is all wrong for us. The level of poor treatment one puts up with, I find, is equivalent to the level of one’s self-esteem. Often when I retell stories of emotionally strong individuals flipping the switch and walking away from their toxic relationships, those with the low self-esteem are usually in awe and very impressed with the show of strength, believing that that type of self-care is a mystery and far beyond them.
The bottom line is – you have to decide that you’re worth it. You have to see that there is a better life waiting for you on the other side of this. It’s a choice and you have to keep making the choice every day, until making that choice becomes habitual. Little by little, the more you practice self-care, the easier it is to walk away from people bent on doing you harm.
You start to make this break by practicing control over your thinking. We discussed this last week and this is something that does take practice. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. Keep choosing your thoughts, keeping them off what you don’t want and on what you do want.
While you are making the break, it is absolutely imperative that you do not break no contact for any reason. For some who co-parent with their exes, or work with them, this gets infinitely more difficult, but for all involved, any attempt to re-establish contact by them must be ignored, because any communication will take you right back to where you started from and will drag you back into the maze. When co-parenting, make it clear that you are only going to speak about the children and their issues, nothing else. You may have to repeat that 1000 times, but you must always give them the same response, “I’m not interested, just be here at 4:00pm to take Michael to soccer practice.” Any deviation, any implied interest in what they’re saying, will have them ramping up their effort to reinstate themselves back in your life, which is the last thing you want them to do. Keep it simple – keep it about the children, or work – then disengage – consistently.
The next step is to stop talking about them. Our friends are probably ripping their hair out and don’t want to hear your ex’s name again. Because they don’t understand what you’ve been through, they are really starting to think that there is something wrong with you – so stop talking about your ex. Stop making them the focal point of your existence. The more you talk about them the more the relationship continues to exist. When you’re out having coffee or drinks and something is said and the perfect anecdote that involves your ex pops into your head – stop yourself. No one wants to hear it – especially you. Talk about how cute your new personal trainer is, or how you’ve been thinking about actually taking that course you’ve always talked about, instead. Anything but your ex – stop giving it life.
Once you’ve mastered your thoughts somewhat, the next step is to master your emotions. Remember this is a process, it doesn’t happen overnight and it takes a lot of patience and a lot of practice. I’m an advocate of allowing yourself to feel your feelings. I believe that’s the only way to truly heal from emotional pain, but as you are weaning yourself from your Narcissistic drug – you need to force control over your emotions and stifle them when they show up. Let’s be honest – this is a battle. You have to battle your demons every day, just like an addict. It’s not easy. No one said it was, but you have to find your inner fighter and battle your way through this.
When a song comes on, or a friend of a friend tells you your ex has a new girlfriend/boyfriend, you have got to practice letting this stuff roll off of you, like water off a duck’s back. Maintaining your (at this point) very fragile inner peace, has to been the most important thing to you. Keep away from people and situations that are going to throw you into an emotional tailspin. Don’t go to the pub, where you know they’ll be. Imagine what would happen if you were sitting there and they walk in with their new partner. Not only does the whole thing reek of desperation on your part, but you’d also be an emotional wreck – don’t do that to yourself. Stay away from anything that will rock the fragile peace you’re trying to establish in your life. If someone starts to talk about your ex, stop them immediately and say, “I don’t want to hear it.”
The next step is to build yourself up. Work on the broken pieces of you that allowed this to happen in the first place. Get to the bottom of your childhood hurts, read books on codependency, building your self-esteem and on creating the life you want and put those ideas into action. The best time to take up a new hobby is when you are trying to replace some bad habits – so go take that class, start going to yoga, get a gym membership, join a baseball team, hike in nature, plan that trip. Get inspired about your life.
Once you have gotten to this point you will probably feel like you’ve turned a corner, but remember your recovery is still fragile, don’t fool yourself into thinking you can handle a confrontation. Keep doing what you’ve been doing and let the past go. You don’t need the last word. You don’t need closure. You don’t need permission to walk away. You don’t need to show him how great you’re doing without him. You don’t need proof that he actually did cheat. All you need is the desire to be happy and care enough about yourself to want something better.
Get excited about starting a new chapter in your life. A chapter that’s all about you and your health and happiness. Your ex’s attempts to make contact with you should have you rolling your eyes at this point. If you’ve been consistent with no contact, they should have stopped bothering you almost completely by now and the ease at which you can shrug them off should have increased exponentially. As your interest in you and your life increases, your interest in them starts to fade away and you’ll find yourself getting more and more repulsed by their type. It’s about your energy – your vibration. The more positively you start to think and feel, the healthier you start to become, which in turn affects the level of your vibration. You will find that, not only do Narcissists and other broken types turn you off, but they will also stop being attracted to you.
It’s at this point that you will automatically start to raise your standards and instill boundaries in your life. You won’t tolerate disrespect anymore and you’ll damn well know exactly where your line is. Once, you were amazed at people who stood up for themselves – now you’re one of them.
The speed at which this process evolves is entirely up to you. This is your life and your fight. No one else can do the work for you. The one thing I can tell you for sure is, that you won’t be the same person that you were at the beginning of this battle and you’ll realize somewhere along the way, that the war you’ve been having, wasn’t with your ex at all, it was with yourself.
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Savannah, I hope you have a group on Facebook so we can support each other and comfort each other, seeing that I wasn’t alone. I thought I was the one crazy and seflish at first. So grateful to find your website. Truly empowers wome. like me
How does this apply to a discard when they have thrown you away and cut you off? I feel if attempts were made I wouldn’t feel as crushed
there were many points where I realized I was in a horrible relationship for instants never being allowed to even go to the gym by myself he got so upset that one. I spent the money on the $15 a month gym membership and two.) that I would have to get him a membership if I even thought about going while I was with him because I couldn’t go to the gym by myself.
we have been separated for about four months but have still been talking to each other he is supposed to be working on being sober and getting a job and a car come to find out he has been taking his moms Xanax every day while telling me about going to an AA meeting’s three times a day .
he never got a job in those four months he never stop using drugs he never got a car or paid his child support so when we were talking about living together again I realized he hadn’t done any of the things that I had asked him to do to get back together this is after finding out he had been using heroin and methamphetamines with a woman in a hotel room for months while I thought he was going to work and in my stupid addiction to his narcissism I thought that if he proved he could be sober and hold a job that I would take him back because he is so handsome and so charming .
really all that or relationship ever was was me thinking how handsome and charming and hot he was and not believing that someone as wonderful as him would be with me.
now that I think of everything that I lost I realize I was a great catch. I had my own car I bought my house 10 years ago even though I’m 33 I have a beautiful daughter that I’ve been able to put in private school I live very healthy and worked out every day I had friends and a social life I was happy I thought that he would make my life better. That he was the missing piece in the three years that we have been together he has been on drugs most of the time lied to me over and over and over about big things and little things pretending to go to work in my car but meeting up and doing drugs all day stealing all my money all my savings my seven-year-old daughter Computer and rings that I gave her for her future wedding that her father had given me before these were 2 1/2 carat diamond ring was just disappeared for his drug habit my daughter’s college fund and Disney fund that we’ve saved for for years all
gone. not to mention my house is in foreclosure my car is two months behind and completely ruined because he had three major car accident and totaled my car but I don’t have the money to fix it or buy a new car anymore .
when I got to gather with him I stopped going to the gym because he didn’t want to be by himself or he might relapse. So I stayed home with him then he didn’t want to eat vegetarian or healthy so I started eating the same way he did and put on 30 pounds .
i’ve become so far in debt that I’m not sure how long it will take me or if I will ever be able to be where I was three years ago before I let him into my life. I realized that not only am I hurting myself my daughter is also suffering. there were 1 million times that she saw him screaming and yelling at me and calling me stupid and every name in the book anytime I gave him a look that he didn’t like or went out with my friends or questioned him about where the money was going or if he was high my daughter went through all of that with me and each time I told her it is over I promise I would let him come back in a week and I would tell my daughter but he’s trying and as long as he’s trying but this time he’s nicer but this time he’s not going to do it this time he’s going to get a job this time he’ll buy you a new computer this time he’ll buy you a horse this time will be doing so great if we just let him come back and work and if we forgive him because we love him so we must forgive him . Even my seven year old knew that he would never change and that he would end up lying and stealing and fighting with me she told me he will always fight with you whenever you are happy or paying attention to me because he wants all of the attention for himself. Didn’t you notice mom, that any time you paid attention to me or anything else he would start a fight so you had to pay attention to him? I hadn’t noticed all I had noticed was he ruined every fun moment I had with my daughter if I was laughing with my daughter he would find a reason to start a fight he ruined so many memories of swimming and camping and roller skating and teaching my daughter how to read where he argued about every single detail about what she was doing wrong and what I was doing wrong I feel horrible. I feel like I let my daughter down and I became a liar by showing her that my word my promises, that I would not take him back and that there would be no more fights that things would get better, was a lie .
all I can do now is maintained no contact. It is easier because he ended up going to jail for the assault that he did to me when I first found out he was using drugs. Like a real narcissist he did not apologize when I found the drugs and the text from the woman about meeting in a hotel and their relationship that had been going on for two months, instead of apologizing he attacked me and ended up strangling me and hitting my head into doors that is a true narcissist
oh my gosh Yvonne! You are so right! They never apologise ever..
I am so glad to get rid of the Tyrant too after 4 years! Here’s to a true journey of self discovery and self love.
I stayed in the relationship because of those wonderful memories. And Savanna was right when she mentioned that we want to fix it for ourselves and go back to the way it was in the beginning. Now I am fully awake to say “Yes!! This is the narcissist true identity”.
The only mistake I’ve made after a couple of break ups is I contacted him, I am in a co-dependent relationship with a narcissist!
After learning so much about myself, now I am strong enough to got rid of him.
Can’t wait to experience more of joy of life and singlehood!
This article will be my bible until I am cured of the addiction to this man. I have searched for answers on how to stop my addiction to him and I think I have finally found it. Thank you, Savannah
Hi there – I stumbled across your blogs today – when I SO desperately needed it. My mother is a narcissist and over the past 10 years I’ve been working on building my self esteem and unwinding from all the wrongs she did to me and said about me that made me believe I was “less than.” Which brings me to the reason for my comment:
I was in a “relationship” with this guy 12 years ago and I put up with him disappearing and reappearing for two years. Of course he was committed to someone else, but he didn’t tell me that right from the beginning – he’d release information slowly – nice trick you little b*stard. I finally had enough and tried to end it on several occasions but he would show up at my door with promises etc. So I came up with a brilliant idea and ended it in such a way that I thought he would never come back – I exposed his indiscretions to his family (he was engaged). Done and over. Blessed silence for 10 years. Two months ago he reappeared in my life the same way he did before – drove by my house and I just happened to be in the front yard – curses on that timing! I was quite afraid of him – I wasn’t sure if this was 10 years of retaliation he was building up to and wanted to confront me with, but he was quite pleasant and then he left. I had NO intentions of hooking up (he had indicated he wanted to) but then he found me on a dating site (which gave him WAY too much information – he now knew I lived in my house alone, I was single and my interests were also listed so he knew what I did in my spare time). He kept emailing me until one day he was in the area where I worked and offered to buy me a coffee. Like a dummy (but I was still fearful) I met him and before I knew it, we were sleeping together again. I don’t even know how I got back into this. He’s just as much of an ass as he was 10 years ago, only now he has a couple kids and a wife he is “apparently” divorcing. By the way, same woman he was engaged to when he was having his flings with me. Poor woman. He also told me that he cheated on her a few months before he came looking for me which I found very interesting because apparently I was never too far away from his thoughts. Interesting – then why didn’t he look me up at that time?? I don’t trust him, I roll my eyes when he spins yarns meant to keep me (Oh you’re so beautiful, I thought of you constantly over the past 10 year blah blah blah) and he really has no depth – no interests he can speak of – he’s really dumb – hate to say it but low level of the gene pool for sure.
So, my question is, how did I end back in this exact same place 10 years later?? I did SO much self esteem work, I went to counseling, I read books, blogs whatever I could get my hands on and now I’m back in the sh*t. The worst part about all of this is that he’s never mentioned my “Deed of Revenge” and I’ve never mentioned it (why would I?), but now I’m more fearful than before that I can NEVER get rid of this guy. I tried many times 10 years ago to get him to leave me alone and I was sure my Deed of Revenge would end it for good and I’d never see this jerk again. But surprise – here he is and here I am, surprised as heck that I’m sleeping with him again. And I HATE myself for it. And I really do hate him but (this is going to sound shallow so beat me up if you’d like – this is full disclosure – but we have an amazing sexual chemistry.
Where did I go wrong?? I do have healthy self esteem – I’ve dumped many of my friends who were using me, I’ve even taking on a narcissistic boss and won, and I’ve been single for 7 years because I thought it was best for me to figure myself out first. Then this arse comes along. Any suggestions would be helpful. thank you 😉
TA my best guess would be that you are still codependent. Codependency always strives to keep you where you are. It doesn’t want you to grow and be better. and there’s several ways it tries to do this. There is the critical parent voice that tries to talk you into things. It creates doubt, confusion and shame and it even tries to come up with justifications as to why you should do something you know you shouldn’t. For instance when you go no contact – you’ve made the right decision and you’re probably feeling better but then the voice comes back and it starts to make you think, remember and feel things (to keep you where you are) – then it tries to come up with acceptable reasons for you to break no contact – like I need you to come pick up your stuff. You’re in this position again because you haven’t learned how to battle these behaviors and you made a series of bad choices which your codependency helped you to justify at the time.
TA my best guess would be that you are still codependent. Codependency always strives to keep you where you are. It doesn’t want you to grow and be better. and there’s several ways it tries to do this. There is the critical parent voice that tries to talk you into things. It creates doubt, confusion and shame and it even tries to come up with justifications as to why you should do something you know you shouldn’t. For instance when you go no contact – you’ve made the right decision and you’re probably feeling better but then the voice comes back and it starts to make you think, remember and feel things (to keep you where you are) – then it tries to come up with acceptable reasons for you to break no contact – like I need you to come pick up your stuff. You’re in this position again because you haven’t learned how to battle these behaviors and you made a series of bad choices which your codependency helped you to justify at the time.
This article really hit the nail on the head..my divorce was final yesterday from my N….taking that stand was the hardest thing I had ever done. Thank God my family is here to support me.
I kept asking the questions: Has he really changed? Does he mean it? Does he love me? How many times did I go back to try and make things work to only find out he was in his “acting mode” and the “monster” was waiting around the corner to appear.
In time I know I will feel stronger and my self-esteem will improve. Being in a relationship with a N is like a major addiction….I can’t get over the fact that I knew something wasn’t “right” when we were dating, but I was SO IN LOVE and he was my knight in shining armor. It’s like a moth being drawn to the flame… the light is beautiful, but the closer you get, the hotter it is and eventually you will get burned.
Going No Contact is the only way to go. I found myself checking the phone, emails, junk email (in case…) just to see if he tried to contact me….I felt like I was going crazy…he almost convinced me I was at one point in the relationship.
Blocking #’s is the only way to go…that way, you don’t know if he called or not so you can rest assured and start your own healing.
I encourage everyone involved in a destructive relationship to get yourself a good support group, whether it be a family member (although they WILL have trouble understanding what you are going through), a counselor, or even prayer.
Savanna, thank you so much for your helpful articles..>God Bless you
Hi Savannah,
My problem was after I had Breast cancer and divorced my husband …dating was the last thing on my mind.
I waited 3 years to date. My cancer was caused by 9-11 and I met a man who I was not atracted too at all but we had something in common….his wife died in 9-11.
Hence, we started talking and he shed tears and my heart went out to him.
We talked over the phone constantly after that and then we started dating.
Not a month went by and as I answered my phone and it was my next door neighbor he flipped out. He started acting like a crazy person. I couldnt get off the phone quick enough. WHen I hung up I said….”What the heck is wrong???!!!” He said, “I heard you inviting them over….I’LL LEAVE!!!” I said, I did not do that ….and what if I did?? It was crazy and it made me so uncomfortable. He sat at the table and seemed fine after he apologized….like it was no big deal but it was for me. I had that uneasy feeling like….”WTH??” SO he said….are you ok? I said not really. He asked “DO you want me to leave and I said YES!” He got his stuff and was hunched over, dragging his feet, hanging his head and left. He looked like a little boy who was scolded. It didnt end there. We did the back and forth thing for awhile. If you want to know more about it…I posted a youtube video about dating called “DATING SUX” …I have long brown hair. I talked about 2 guys…this one is the first. ANyway, we went back and forth and then…..he told me he researched online info about the 2nd guy that I dated to the point of knowing his address. I thought that was over the top! He then tried to date me and in the same week told me his ex-fiance was moving back in with him but in his basement. I swear…he even admitted to me that telling white lies to avoid things was the way he handles things. A lot of your page talks about this. He is a full blown Narcs. The reason I am commenting is because recently I was told he was having a hard time around Christmas with still feeling hurt. (We went out from January until August.) So I felt bad. Around New years I wished his a happy NY and then this week I sent another email just asking him to let me know he was doing ok.
Thats was the worst thing I could have ever done. He said the nastiest things to me. Called me names describing all the things that he is. I tried not to own his accusations but it upset me so much.
I wasnt going to answer him because as it says here you cannot win with a NARCS. but its too bad I didnt read the article before I answerd.
The reason he is so nasty is because I found out things about him. He would die if people ever found out. He rapidly got me out of his life like the article said he would because one thing they cannot take is anyone thinking they are the bad one.
He was married twice. The second person was a psychologist. His ex-fiance cheated on him. Oh and by the way the entire time I went out with him he NEVER mentioned his dead wife. The clues and signs were all there. I cut it off. The problem I have is letting go of it. I seem to hold on to the fantasy of it. Its not real.
I am a strong confident woman but a deeply emotional, care-taking person. I never see the bad and think I can fix everything. I just need help getting rid of these feelings.
I broke off with my ex and did no contact for 2,5 months. Then I broke it by sending him a email. stating I hoped he was well and thinking about him as the anniversary of his wife’s death was upon him. It took him 2 weeks to reply thank you. He is the type who wants the woman to come back to him. and I do want him back although I know he is bad news. I can’t shake him.He’s not pursueing me. How do I stop wanting him?
Your articles are very inspiring. I am trying to reflect on them to keep moving forward. I seem to to be “stuck” on 2 issues – (1) did he change and turn into a great guy for the new girl? Did she get my happily ever after? (2) the type of girl he is now with and cheated on me with – is everything he said he DIDN’T want in a woman – how do I stop feeling “less” than her or that somehow she got some great prize?
I broke it off with my narcissist Boyfriend, maintained no contact for over 2 months. I still feel like HE dumped me, not the other way around. He has not initiated contact . I broke No Contact with an email after 2.5 months of no contact , by wishing him a happy New Year. no response back from him as I expected. the feeling that he dumped me still lingers. He wanted to be with a former girlfriend and me at the same time.
This post describes exactly my situation. I don’t hate my “ex”, I feel sorry for her. But I know she’s going to continue making self-destructive choices and loving it. She has never attacked me directly; it’s always been insanely passive aggressive. I’m probably in some sort of denial too. I’ve been in the devaluation phase for about 4 months. But she can’t devalue me because I’m admired so much by others. So she’s passive aggressive.
I’m 3 weeks in to no contact and it’s got to be the hardest 3 weeks of my life. It’s a real battle to stay NO contact with my Narcistic evil X,But I know it’ll be worth my recovery to the sad evil addiction . Self sabotage, extreme sleeping, no focus on anything in my life have been the side effects of all of this low point of my life. Thankyou Savannah for this article, your wise words are much appreciated
Kent
Hi Savannah
I would really like to read more on what advice you have for people when an ex is also a co-worker. My ex works in maintenance at my place of work so there is the added stress of the potential to run into him, to see him in passing, to hear his voice or to hear someone mention his name every day. He even makes a pass by my desk every once in a while. This situation makes it very hard as i am constantly on alert to make sure i don’t have any contact or run into him. My emotions are still triggered when he is around so it seems like i will never get to a place of total detachment. I would be grateful for any advice you may have and any insight on his behavior especially when it seems like he is purposely making a choice to walk past my desk when he doesnt have to. Thanks!
You are truly a gift! I have been reading your words for about a year now and as I read this article and recognized that I had turned the corner, the tears welled up in my eyes with gratitude for your altruistic efforts. I stayed in the insanity long enough to lose my heart health and employment. I was not able to pay for anything resembling therapy. Not to be over dramatic but you helped me to save my life!! I am back to work, joined the gym and am coming to terms with the wounds that allowed this sustained evil into my life. I will gladly donate to this cause, but there is no way to put a dollar value on what your gift for articulation and insight has done for me. Thank You Savannah!!
I am still with my narsassist boyfriend but reading these posts help me see the light and my courage is grieving stronger to end it. Not sure how to yet? Sit down and have a heart to heart talk and tell him the reasons why I can’t do this no more? Kill him with kindness or will I be able to be strong enough to handle the confrontation?
Yvonne if you’re looking for closure, acceptance, maturity, kindness, agreement…whatever you hope will come of this conversation, go in knowing that you’re not going to get it. Make the decision for yourself and know that you don’t need his permission to leave. You don’t need to have undeniable proof of wrong-doing to leave. You can leave because you just bloody well want to. Make the choice and do it. It’s that simple.
Thank you Savannah for your excellent post and the very clear advice on maintaining No Contact. After nearly 8 years of a tortuous relationship with a narcissist I finally found my way to sites like this (after a few false starts) and realized what/who I am dealing with. My No Contact has been a slow process but I have disengaged emotionally and the Silent Treatments and Disappearing Acts no longer elicit any response from me. Other than a continuation of No Contact. Even if he tries all his tricks such as sending endless selfies or knocking on my door at midnight, I do not admire the selfies or answer the door. He has not been actually banned frim visiting. But if he does (and it’s always with a hidden agenda) I treat him coolly and never give him anything he wants. In the end he will find a new source of supply *if he hasn’t already done so* and I will avoid the smear campaign. It’s hard but I know it will end. As long as I’m not enticed into feeling sorry for him.
tuced don’t feel sorry for him
Thank you Savannah once again for your spot on insight and guidance. As all of us know here who have been through it, the betrayal and cold, callous discard by these monsters (both women and men) is shattering. Zero empathy, zero compassion, zero guilt. Your inspiration to pick up the pieces and have a better life is a nice kick in the butt. Thank you so much for your priceless help through this most difficult time….all of us readers really appreciate it.
I love these posts Savannah for their clear writing, understanding and advice, freely given. I’m getting over this person (I’m not happy with the expression ‘my Narc’ as if I own him) although it was a shock when I realised I spent four years on yet another one. I have been amazed how many people are now happy to tell me it was a lost cause and help me with the things he did to enthral me, such as maintaining my property. What really concerns is the heavy duty work on mending me so that, at the age of 60, after a lifetime of doing it, I don’t fall for yet another of these scum bags. i ‘ve read all your posts but It doesn’t seem clear how to change me if affirmations and tapping don’t cut it. How do I bring about an understanding of my childhood and relationship with my recently dead mother?
I can empathise with you entirely Milie. I, too, must address why I keep ending up with men who can’t commit and who, for one reason or another are emotionally weak, only looking for superficial relationships. Or, should I say, only capable of a superficial relationship. Many of my friends were duped too so they are angry on my behalf and are determined to protect me from further pain from this man. At 60 Milie, we have many years of happiness ahead of us and life is such a great adventure. So we have to grab it and make every day count even although we wish there was a special person to share it with. I firmly believe there will be someone else for me just waiting round the corner. But until then…When I turned 60 this year I was on holiday in New Zealand and jumped out of an aeroplane at 15,000 feet. Way hay! That’s the way to sock it the world. Best wishes from Scotland.
Thank you for all your helpful articles Savannah ~ especially this one. It has empowered me to break the terrible spell of lies I have been living in and to move on ~ today is the day. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. ~ Overit
By the end of this article, the Rocky theme song was playing in my head and I wanted to stand up and cheer! You’re so spot on in every way Savannah! Although this is my first comment, I’ve been faithfully reading every article/comment since I found it in January. No contact is absolutely the only way. Though I tried to do this on my own off and on for many years, I was never successful due to the fact I’d feel so much empathy when he’d try to suck me back into the vortex. I honestly believed that I was his true love & that was why he could never let me go. It would melt my resolve every time. Realizing how far this was from the truth, and how I was actually allowing myself to be disrespected finally gave me the strength I needed. And you’re so right, now I see him for the pathetic user he really is. His attempts to try and re engage are now laughable, where they once would have put me in a tailspin. Thank you, thank you, thank you! I shudder to think where I would be without finding the why’s and wherefore’s you define so clearly for all our wounded souls. I have shared your site with numerous people, it’s a wonderful tool for combating what seems to have become a problem of epidemic proportions.
When subscribers post things like “Thank you Savannah, you saved my life”, do you know how true that is? I’m one of them 15 months after I recognised I was at risk of suicide. He was ebbing me of all my joy and energy. I found the strength after the worst humiliation yet, to go ‘no contact’. I had a friend who recognised what he was. She had been through it, too. I dread to think what I’d be like now without you and my friend.
To those who are afraid to go ‘no contact’, believe all the posts on here. You must. Follow ALL Savannah’s advice. I still need to read these blogs but I am free of him and really, really enjoying my life now he is out of it. Be strong. It is an addiction or as I sometimes see it, a viral infection which is hard to shake off.Yes, Savannah, you saved my life.
It is so depressing and hopeless that there are any good men left in this world. If everyone is a narcissist or an abuser, then whats the point of even trying to find someone. Since they all lie and pretend to be great in the beginning of a relationship, then their true colors show up. SAY HELLO TO MY NARCISSIST SELF!!! god help us all.
Not all men are Narcissists unlucky.
Beautiful! I really needed this right now as I’m going through no contact with my narcissist. And I won’t break the “no contact” either.
Ithe last 2 weeks I have read your blog and discovered all the steps I have been thru or ✔️’d off as I trudge thru this process. Some days I feel on top of the world and others are just meh. The one thing I haven’t felt is the desire to return to that crazy cyclical life that my kids and I endured for 29 years. I’m not sure how we survived with our sanity intact. I know when that when he first left there was only a small part of me that remained and that was only there because of my kids.
I realize now the only thing I have ever longed for was the idea of a normal relationship. When he occasionally pops in my dreams now, I know it’s not him I miss it that emotion I want to feel again.
What is the next step?? Some days I feel stuck. Some days I feel undesirable and that I will be alone forever. Most days I feel unsettled inside. I know this process takes a long time and I know I have come so far. I just need an idea of what is out there so I can keep stepping forward.
I can understand why being with a Narc is likened to an addiction and the withdrawal is just the beginning. This is a life long battle. Victim no more!!!
Thank you Savannah for your blog, it has been a lifesaver!!
I’ve been struggling for few weeks already…Okay, for years. This is what I needed ( like, today ) to read/hear and continue to do! Savannah, Thank you so much for your guidance and for being here for me/US! Love always
I need to reinforce these practices..it’s been about 1 year since I left my ex of 6 years. I’ve been with my new man for about 4 months and I realize I am talking about my ex far too much. Usually, comparing my current boyfriend favorably but nonetheless talking about the ex.. This was a good reminder of why it’s important to get them out of your head. I had no desire to see him until recently as I have been feeling so healthy, safe and loved in my current relationship, I want him to see that I am good and have moved on but I see that even that would taken by my ex as me wanting to see him and never being able to get over him… So I continue with no contact and flush him from my thoughts!
Really great how you have described an abnormal reaction to abnormal behaviour. Until I read about trauma bonds I couldn’t understand why I was pining for a person who was so destructive. Love the way that you describe them trying to wind you back in emotionally, despite everything mine still tries to make me feel sorry for him at every opportunity. Its so valuable to be able to have a shared experience that is positive especially when for such a long time the only shared experience I was allowed to have just wrung me out. Thanks
I’m ending my addiction to a relationship, not my additiction to him. Thank you for being here.
Savannah, thank you 100 times over for your insightful, well written posts that have put me on the road to recovery after my 4-month intense relationship with a narcissistic man. The Universe put him in my path to get me to wake up to my co-dependency and then the Universe led me to your blog to help me end the relationship.
I’m nearly 2 months into my first (and final!) discard. I miss my funny, generous and kind man, but he showed me how he felt by leaving me and that is not love. This has been almost as hard as my husband’s sudden, unexpected death 8 years ago. And my narc knew that I was widowed young and never dated anyone afterwards. I must have been a challenge to him.
I started to notice that he overly flirted with waitresses and was mean to waiters. When I brought up his “Beautiful Brown Sugar” comment to a waitress (I wanted to crawl under the table), he denied it and said he must have said “where’s the sugar?”
My comment bothered him for days and then he coldly discarded me by saying that loved me, but he couldn’t satisfy me. He didn’t want to address his ED problems and wanted to return to his ex girlfriend who was just phone sex and no work (no dating needed there).
Savannah, because of your blog and because of all the insightful comments by your posters, I am firmly committed to NC and recovery. Every day is hard. I am reading and re-reading your posts, journaling my thoughts and progress and studying Co-Dependency issues. I’ve ignored his calls and am planning to move one hour away and at that point will block his calls. I haven’t blocked his calls because he lives near me and when he calls too much, I go to the back of the house because that means he’s coming over here.
Recovering from a co-dependent/narcissistic relationship is hard work. I realize now that he imprinted on me during Love Bombing. I was beginning to dislike his behavior and now realize that I was addicted to the relationship – not him.
I found that dating again is fun and I plan to recover from this horrible experience so that I can attract a healthy single man who wants to fall in love. Thank you so much Savannah!
Here is one of my favorite affirmations: “Hey Little Fighter, soon it will be brighter.”
OMG! The timing of this article was incredible. I left my narc on 11/7/15 & was divorced in May 2015 after 25 years of a bad marriage. I still have withdrawal symptoms even though logically I know I am the happiest I’ve been since before I married him. That said last night I had a horrible night. Couldn’t sleep. I prayed to God to help me get over this & miraculously I wake up this morning & there is your blog that I so desperately needed to hear. You are so spot on! You have been a great help to me. Thank you!
Everything about this post is spot-on and applicable to exactly where I am in this process after almost a year (after a 32-year relationship). I “speak” to him only via email and only because we are working on the financial settlement. I really know almost nothing about where he is or what he is doing and totally do not care. I am ready for this to be DONE.
The line that really jumped out at me: “The war you were having wasn’t with your ex at all, it was with yourself.” Yep.
This site was the first I found last October after he left, and it has been a Godsend in helping me navigate the path.
There are moments where some little glimpses of anger return for me with regards to my N ‘friend’. I remember how he used to hold me and my friends to unreasonable standards yet he would not hold himself or his own friends to these same standards. Example: he’d nitpick something my friend said about some intellectual thing, but then he would make excuses for his shallow somatic narc trainer (as well as other shallow friends), even though this guy was a total airhead. His argument: you don’t know them! (B/c he kept me completely isolated from them) yet he seemed to have the authority to know mine. Funny the hypocrisy, huh?
And then while he was always expecting me to ‘get over it’ (the hurt) he would constantly be throwing a pity party about the events in his life (which he refused to tell me, prob b/c there were none). He claimed he couldn’t read my work anymore b/c he was ‘too depressed’ and this lasted 4+ yrs.
And when I would imply how he should move on and get reading again, he would claim I was ‘not understanding’ yet he could never manage to ‘understand’ how his 7 yrs of lies could hurt me, much less would he ever apologize for it. Of course not b/c it’s all about him and his needs.
Yesterday I saw this great looking guy while at the store. The cliched tall, dark and handsome type. Looked a lot like Jon Hamm. We met eyes and it was nice but that was all. In the past I might have fantasized over him for the rest of the day. Now, I think, ‘Hmm. I don’t know this guy.’ Yes, he was nice looking but that’s all. I thought about him for 10 mins or so and put him out of my mind b/c I remembered how he reminded me of a somatic narc I knew who was such a user and manipulator.
Not that I am advocating bias or prejudice against someone who is great looking, just that I now remember the last time I fixated on some great looking guy and how he hurt me. The hurt experience brought me awareness to just enjoy the physical scenery for what it is and move on.
But I will say seeing a great looking guy like that made me feel good in the sense that it reminded me to not get fixated on anyone, much less the one who hurt me.
I was looking forward to reading ‘Letting Go 2’ and it has not disappointed me. In my recent experience my ex finished things with me just out of the blue (for the second time). It occurred to me that whenever things were going very well he pulled away and moved onto another. No warnings detected! I am now putting it all behind me and clearing my mind. No contact is helping. It was his 63rd birthday yesterday and I resisted sending any wishes. His reason for leaving this time was that he feels he is running out of opportunities to pursue other relationships!! I am 60 – just retired and in the prime of my life so it’s his great loss. Thank you for your great advice.
I like the repulsed part. Makes sense-they start to really emerge as the monster they really are. When we built them up in our minds to be attractive- we start seeing the real person-they are pathetic. The are supposed to be MEN and they are manipulating babies trying to get mommy to do whatever baby wants. You remember the moments in a flash of them looking pathetic that you tried to ignore to stay enthralled and how you cooked your interpretations. Everything that was a problem for them was always because of someone else. That is NOT what a MAN says. Everything they did was not proactive but REactive-that is not what fully formed adults say. Think of another man doing this and you are repulsed. Boredom is a problem so do NOT be bored. Do all the things Savannah says. There are a lot of men now in the Narcissism biz, trying to be king and super authority. One claims to be one-and has shown it lately . Savannah knows the way in – and out. When I think of her -how she looks I always see a winner in my mind. Good looking-good speaking good doing and good measuring of how a pitfall could await and making sure to not fall into it. Not getting arrogant about her success but giving it a due respect for wanting to trip us all up if we do not stand sentinel. I still find myself imagining taking a cigarette, or a binge on cake-and then I put that right out of my mind and resent that it came there in the first place AFTER ALL MY GOOD WORK AND WINNING OVER IT. I believe her success is formidable and hard won. I believe we will always need to be our own good Mothers-and that can only be good
Excellent. This weekend he went to the same event that I did of our daughter’s MMA fight. He sat at the other end of my same table, but I ignored. He got to see me having a ball and interacting with my four friends at the table. Then last evening he came knocking at my door dying of jealousy–and he walked away supposedly cutting all ties–returning the last thing he had of mine and taking his last thing right out of my yard. I couldn’t be more pleased. But he will be back and now I will be armed with Savannah’s newest gem, “I’m not interested.” I can say it once and I can say it 1000 times if necessary, and I probably won’t even need to add the part about the soccer practice; she is now away at college. I am happy. My friend last night pointed out to me that I am “no longer on a tether.” So true. I am me, and I am happy with my life. I am full and complete. I also recommend to everyone if your financial situation or insurance can possible afford it–and if not seek it free–get counseling. A good counselor will not only support you in your break away, but help you discover those things from your past that let you get into this situation and to deal with them so you can truly be healthy inside and out. I am almost there; I am still dealing with issues from my childhood, but I am persisting and confident that I will get through them.
Absolutely brilliant wisdom once again. Inspiring and empowering.
Hi Savannah –
I’m jet lagged from yet another long overseas trip but I’ve found a silver lining: your new post, on a most excellent topic. And I get to leave the first comment – cool!
There is so much wisdom in what you’ve written. The awareness that we are addicted to the N, the battle within ourselves to act on our instincts — these are such important realizations. But the really big point for me is the idea that the real struggle or fight was always with myself. It’s taken me a long time to really see that. But it’s so true.
After the N discarded me I went over the many things she said and did that struck a wrong chord, that jarred my insides, that drove a spike into my gut. Things that told me so clearly that the “I love yous” and other things she said were complete crap, designed to feed me what I wanted to hear. We all have dozens of examples; Ns have no deep attachments of any kind (except to their endless cycle of selfish self-punishment). Yet we hold onto the scraps or crumbs they feed us, which are like life preservers in a shit-filled sea.
The battle is with ourselves: to stop ignoring the crap we are floating in. To stop concentrating only on the latest pathetic life preserver. To stop believing we NEED that life preserver.
The battle is simply to see that we are and always have been capable of swimming on our own. Swimming in God bright clear and warm water of our own lives. To value ourselves first last and always. The battle is to feel worthy.
Ns occupy a living hell from which there is no escape. But here is the secret: it’s not our hell, it’s theirs. We are there by invitation. And unlike the old rock song it’s not true that “we can check out any time we like but we can never leave.” We can check out, leave, and never look back.
The battle you describe was one of the most difficult I’ve ever faced, but one of the most rewarding. I know now I hold the key to my own happiness. I am responsible for my joy. No one else owns it and no one else can take it from me.
Today when I sign off as Hurtin’ Cowboy it’s mostly that I hurt fir others who are just starting on this path. I remember the pain and agony. But I also remember the sweet victories — the many fruits of strict no contact. Thanks for the reminder Sav and for being there for all of us each step along the way.
HC
WELL SAID!! You put the nail in the coffin. I enjoy your posts SO MUCH, because they apply to my life in every way. I look forward to your next post……keep them coming!!
As always perfect timing and brilliant advice..
I have done exactly what Savannah describes and it really has helped me.
After admitting to myself that this barely there relationship with my boomerang Narc was eroding my self esteem and making me feel completely worthless and then going No Contact I decided to look into my childhood to find out why I am so insecure and have a need to be validated. By doing this I was able to see where the problem stemmed from and then work on myself and put boundaries in place.
I don’t talk about the ex narc anymore to friends and family, infact I act like he no longer exists.
Its an experience that I have learnt from but also want to forget about as it has to be one of the unhappiest times of my life.
It’s hard to believe that we get so addicted to a person who treats us in such a disgraceful manner.
Savannahs posts have really helped me to gather the strength together to move on, go No Contact and live a life that I truly deserve. Thank you Savannah 🙂